Justice Anthony Kennedy's made an extraordinary statement in the oral arguments in Hollingsworth V. Perry (12-144) yesterday.
Kennedy questioned attorney Ted Olson, referencing social scientific evidence presented in the judicial record by the civil rights plaintiffs, but expressing trepidation that granting equal protection did not not guarantee a specific outcome in society.
Said Kennedy, "The problem -- the problem with the case is that you're asking, really asking, particularly because of the sociological evidence you cite, for us to go into uncharted waters, and you can play with that metaphor, there's a wonderful destination, it is a cliff. Whatever that was."
So, Kennedy is expressing both the fact the denial of equal protection to gay couples has persisted universally across the country until only recently and he doesn't know what granting equal protection will do.
Kennedy goes on to ask about the question of standing.
Said Olson after setting Kennedy straight on standing: "It was uncharted waters when this Court, in 1967, in the Loving (v. Virginia) (1967) decision said that interracial -- prohibitions on interracial marriages, which still existed in 16 states, were unconstitutional."
After an exchange between Kennedy and Olson, Olson goes on to paraphrase Justice Ginsburg in the United States v. Virginia Military Institute (VMI) case: "A prime part of the history of our Constitution is the story of extension of constitutional rights to people once ignored or excluded."
Kennedy expressed fear in the exchange that the Court would have to go "all the way" in granting equal protection.
Why the fear of freedom and equal protection from Justice Kennedy?
We expect such fear from bigots, the ignorant and the infantile who comprise much of American Christian society.
Justice Samuel Alito similarly asked, "But what is your response to the argument which has already been mentioned about the need to be cautious in light of the newness of the -- the concept of -- of same-sex marriage?"
After all, Alito said, gay marriage has only been around since the Internet and cell phones?
Now, there is conservative jurisprudence on display: You have been deprived of equal protection so long in this country the Court must be cautious in granting your Constitutional rights now.
Justice delayed demands justice denied for a longer period into the future.
I guess Anthony Kennedy is better than Robert Bork at least.
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Mar 27, 2013
Mar 24, 2013
Wisconsin Statute Struck Down Instructs Civil Rights Case Before U.S. Supreme Court This Week
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| I hate gays, is no argument against loving couples marrying |
As a great civil rights case of our day (Hollingsworth V. Perry) (12-144) is heard this week by the U.S. Supreme Court, a 1970s Wisconsin state statute, Zablocki v. Redhail (No. 76-879), struck down as unconstitutional stands as a precedent for marriage equity for gay and lesbian Americans in establishing marriage as a fundamental right of Americans.
There are no serious arguments against marriage equity for gays and lesbians. 'I believe what I believe' does not qualify as a serious argument (as most of us learned in elementary school composition) anymore than my-god-mommy-religion-tells-me-so counts as an argument. This is however, the argument repeated today by Republicans over and over.
As with the major civil rights battles of the past 60 years, a coalition of religious and political forces allied with unvarnished hate is armed with a striking lack of intellectual artillery in their views opposing the Constitutional rights denied a class of Americans, in this case the right of gay and lesbian Americans to marry.
As David Boies said today (March 24, 2013) on Meet the Press, we have established that marriage is a fundamental right of the American people, and proved three things to prevail at the U.S. Supreme Court.
- "We needed to prove first that marriage is a fundamental right. And I think we did that."
- "Second, we needed to prove that depriving gay and lesbian citizens of the right to marry seriously harm(s) them and seriously harm(s) the children that they are raising. And we proved that too."
- "Even if you simply applied a rational basis test. ["Under the rational basis test, the courts will uphold a law if it is rationally related to a legitimate government purpose," notes the Cornell Law School's Legal Information Institute.] There us no rational basis to justify this (gay marriage) ban. And that's because of the third thing we proved, which was there no evidence, none, that allowing gays and lesbians to marry harms the institution of marriage, or harms anyone else." ...
"Certain fundamental rights are too important to be left to the ballot box," said Boies.
Zablocki v. Redhail (No. 76-879) (1978)
Wisconsin's statute enacted in the late 1970s -- preventing those falling behind in child-support payments from getting married -- was overturned as unconstitutional (Zablocki v. Redhail ((No. 76-879)) in an eight-to-one decision opposed only by the late, statist-reactionary Justice William Rehnquist.
The relevance of the Wisconsin case to Perry is the Court's establishing, along with other precedents, the Constitutional importance of the right to marry. Having established marriage as a fundamental right, it becomes constitutionally difficult to deny this right to a particular class of Americans, though this difficulty will not likely prevent at least four (Republican) U.S. Supreme Court Justices from voting specifically to deny this right to gay and lesbian Americans.
But a majority of Americans in a given state in favor of bigotry towards gays and lesbians does not place the majority on firm constitutional ground.
As David Boies said (Bill Moyers Journal, Feb. 26, 2010):
If you didn't tell the majority of the voters they were wrong sometimes under the Constitution, you wouldn't need a constitution. The whole point of the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment is to say, 'This is democracy. But it's also democracy in which we protect minority rights.' The whole point of a Constitution is to say there are certain things that a majority cannot do, whether it's 52 percent or 62 percent or 72 percent or 82 percent of the people. They can't say, for example, that blacks and whites can't go to school together -- even though 82 percent of the people may think that. They can't say that women aren't allowed to vote, or are not allowed to work in the workplace, or not allowed equal rights or equal wages -- even though a majority of people might vote that way in some places.
There are certain rights that are so fundamental that the Constitution guarantees them to every citizen regardless of what a temporary majority may or may not vote for. And remember, what Ted (Olsen) said is very important. Nobody's asking to create a new constitutional right here. This is a constitutional right that has already been well recognized by the Supreme Court. And what the Supreme Court has said is that even a democratic-elected legislature in Wisconsin cannot decide by majority rule that marriage scofflaws, (p)eople who don't pay their child support, who abuse their children, abuse their wives, cannot get remarried again.
They said marriage is so fundamental that you can't take it away, even for people who have abused an initial marriage.Boies' colleague in Perry, Ted Olson, amplifies the point:
David (Boies) mentioned that we have a Constitution and we have an independent judiciary for the very protection of minorities. Majorities don't need protection from the courts. The original Constitution didn't have the Bill of Rights attached to it. And the framers of our Constitution had a big debate and people said, 'Well, we're not going to ratify that Constitution unless you attach a Bill of Rights, which protects individual liberty, individual freedom, the right to speak, the right to assemble,' and those sorts of things.
Over our history, the voters have decided, because they get passionate about certain things, and they may not like certain minorities. Minorities are disfavored. Blacks have been denied the right to vote. California prohibited Chinese, a Chinese person from having any kind of business in California, or getting married. Those kind of votes are not acceptable if they violate fundamental constitutional rights. ...
The Internet offers us a window in the slow-motion civil rights battle of what will likely be a landmark legal case when it reaches the U.S. Supreme Court sometime in the next one to four years.The Congress and the President of the United States 50 years ago made it illegal for someone who is a gay or lesbian to have a job working for the federal government. Many states made it a crime for a homosexual to be in a bar and have a drink. We all remember the '50s. When civil rights were taken away from people because they were suspected of being a member of an organization that -- those sorts of things happened. And we frequently go to the courts and, Bill, it often happens that the measures that are passed almost unanimously in Congress, because Congress gets carried away, are overturned by the Supreme Court. And you go back to Members of Congress and you say, 'What happened there?' And they'll say, 'Well, we knew it was unconstitutional. We expected the courts to take care of that. We wanted to get reelected. The courts are the ones that come back and help us.'
See Proposition Eight Trial Tracker for legal and political updates.
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(Hollingsworth V. Perry) (12-144)
Gay Marriage and the Constitutionby David BoiesWhy Ted Olson and I Are Working to Overturn California's Proposition 8
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A similar version of this piece appeared in 2009 here.
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